Thursday, December 21, 2006

A warm supporting environment

That what Madam President wants.
How do I know? Well this was posted today:
It was written by Clara (the queen bee at the Knitters Review forum)

This morning I received a very angry voicemail from the president of this knitting guild to complain about this thread, that it does not follow the "warm and supportive environment" I describe as the forums, and to complain about Of Troy in particular.

I am not in a position to spend an hour on the phone, long-distance, with her, defending this thread. I am not in the mood to receive the ire and flak of a total stranger for complaints someone else made on her behalf here.
There is more, see the whole thread at:
A guild in turmoil

Please remember Clara also posted this:
For that reason I recommend that you take this discussion off the forums and onto your blog. Actually I request it.So if you have comments, please post them here, not on Knitters Review.

Item 1-Madam President is SURE the Pip is Helen Griffin.
(doesn’t she know, on the internet no one knows if you are a dog?
Not that Helen Griffin is a dog, but why is she so sure the PIP is a single person?
Simple minded thinking Madam President!)

Item 2- A Warm and Supporting Environment
--oh, how do you foster this Madam President?

By disenfranchising members?

By Ignoring the by laws?

By not being true to your own words?

By holding secret meetings,

by demanding board members resign,

by blackballing any member who disagrees with you?

Which of these actions are part of a warm and supporting environment?

Why doesn’t the BAKG have Beginner Knitters workshops?
(one answer, not from Madam President but from her good friend,
“What do we want with these young knitters and their frou-frou yarns?”
(Yes, like Mr Swift, she asks: “What good is a baby?” --only she isn’t using satire.)

There are perhaps a dozen member of the BAKG who own yarn stores, (some brick and morter, some on-line) but you wouldn’t know it to hear Madam President talk.

For her, there is only one LYS-Seaport Yarns.

Now this PIP thinks Seaport Yarns is a fantastic store.
Great selection, great prices, and Andrea!

But this PIP thinks it is inappropriate for Madam President,
(even if she is also a Seaport Yarn EmPLOYEE)
to provide Seaport Yarn with SPECIAL RIGHTS and PRIVLIDGES.

IT WAS a FOREGONE CONCLUSION (and its already been announced)
that SEAPORT YARN (once AGAIN) will be the “in-Place Vendor” at the 2007 retreat.

HOW did that decision get made?

Were other member/vendors asked to submit bids, or proposals?
Was it discussed at a Board Meeting?
Does any other member/vendor feel that Madam President is SUPPORTIVE of their businesses?

Or is part of the WARM and SUPPORTING environment missing?

Or do you think that the way get ‘placed’ is to be part of Madam Presidents inner circle?

Madam President might very well be doing a fantastic job.
But her behavior gives every appearance of INSIDER DEALINGS, FAVORITISM, MISMANAGEMENT, SLOPPY RECORD KEEPING, and general contempt for the members.

She certainly can’t claim to foster a WARM and SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT.

Since a basic requirement for such an environment is HONESTY and OPENNESS.
And if there is NO COMMUNICATION, it’s not an Warm (honest, open).
And if there is FAVORITISM, it’s not a Supportive (unless you are one of Madam Presidents SELECT FRIENDS)

Want a Warm and Supportive environment?
Be Honest
Follow the By-Laws
Get Members a copy of the Treasurers report
(as you promised to deliver back in NOVEMBER)
Let’s see the Minutes of all the Board Meetings held this year.
STOP Demanding Resignations

Are you familiar with Charles Deming? (a managent guru)
He states: when there are problems in an organization, its not the workers or members who are the problem.
All problems start, and can be resolved ONLY BY THE MANAGEMENT.
You are the PROBLEM Madam President and if you think blackballing Helen Griffin or any other member is going to solve the problem, you are wrong.
Blackballing is not part of a warm and supportive environment.

Nasty phone calls are not the act of a warm and supportive guild president.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pip, you may be right, you may be wrong, I don't know.
But I have to say that your writing style (including spelling and grammar) are awfully similar to Helen (Of Troy on Knitters Review).
Spell check - don't leave home without it!

7:19 PM, December 21, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clara has struck a subtle blow for freedom of speech. I wonder how long it will take MP to figure it out. Until then,its a big internet and she can't threaten and insult every inch of it.

6:05 AM, December 22, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't it interesting that MP picks others to do her dirty work?
She's too chicken to address the problems and work on correcting them.
All are valid issues that need attention.
It appears that MP is only interested in the bakg money.
She has NO interest, respect or regard for the guild and its members.
She demonstrated this over and over again by not attending general meetings and not holding board meetings.

The members are still letting her get away with this!!
Why doesn't MP just slither away before the entire guild falls apart?
Right now, bakg is a rotten apple!
And MP will be known for making bakg the rotten apple.
MP is a poisonous, slithering snake that will bite anyone that's not a snake.
Her inner circle consists of similar snakes.
The snakes stick together like Birds of a Feather....
They seem to be in complete denial over how their money is spent or squandered.
MP will be known for DESTROYING bakg.

6:10 PM, December 22, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was a member of the BAKG for about 15 years and served on the board for 2 years.
I dropped out of the guild about 3 years ago because I got fed up with the board. They were ruining BAKG and not abiding by the bylaws.

Bylaws state that financial statements be produced and distributed to members annually.
Many meetings I attended and had to ask why there was no financial statement or when would one be available.
I never got a straight answer about about the financials.
Finally, when one was provided, it was incomplete and raised more questions than it answered.
Of course, you could not get a straight answer to those questions.

The last straw came when Madam President decided to raise dues.
At my last meeting, I asked what the financial justification was for raising dues when there was plenty of money in the treasury.
One of her cronies started to yell at me and tell me I was hostile. I wasn't hostile.
I thought it was a reasonable question.
That question was never answered as the price of the dues went up.


7:40 AM, December 31, 2006  
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8:22 PM, January 02, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is sad that all of this is going on. If members are now aware of all this, then perhaps a member who is a lawyer can help you. I don't know the laws in New York, as I do not live there, but perhaps you could file something to freeze the bank account until an audit happens.

Of course, you could get things moving a little faster if you were to contact the investigative reporter at one your local news stations. This would probably get some attention by local news, especially if you have a number of members contacting the reporter, so that he/she knows it's not just one person asking questions. You could identify yourselves to the reporter while remaining anonymous in his/her reports, if you are worried about repercussions from MP or anyone else.

Plus, if it gets onto the local news, that would not be good PR for MP or her LYS.

8:28 AM, January 03, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's what I don't get-- the purpose of a knitting guild is to foster NEW knitters-- why the hell would anyone have a guild which doesn't give a crap about new knitters and their frou-frou yarns? Seems to me that should be another reason for TKGA to take a close look at these folks.

8:25 PM, January 04, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I happened to be talking to someone in a yarn shop who recently joined the bakg and was very disappointed. No one was friendly to her or even welcomed her.
As she was telling her story, another woman chimed in and said she had the same exact experience.
Both were sorry they joined and very disappointed.
I guess that makes MP happy because there's more money for her to not report.

3:52 PM, January 13, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps new people who are unhappy should request a refund of their membership dues.

11:52 PM, January 13, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good luck!!
Once the dues is paid, it's like going into a black hole.
You'll never know what happened to the dues money.

1:24 PM, January 14, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Have there been any new developments?

2:41 PM, January 16, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its funny how only some members got notices of the January meeting and copies of the so called financial report.

1:23 PM, January 18, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BAKG has become an exclusive club open only to members who brown nose MP.
As a matter of fact, if MP stopped short, her cronies would all have broken noses!!
And only those who brown nose MP, will receive notices about meetings and financials.
If you don't brown nose, you'll probably be ignored and eventually leave. Of course, you won't get a refund.
MP is not the least bit interested in the membership. Only the treasury.
The way MP sees it is if you don't like it, leave.
The financial reports are a joke.
If your looking to write fiction, use BAKG financial reports for ideas.

4:39 PM, January 21, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm being indignent from the other side of the country. What's going on? Mass uprising? Having things gotten better??!?

7:00 PM, February 07, 2007  
Anonymous Knitnerd said...

It's official. The BAKG is now a dictatorhip. At the meeting on Saturday,Madam President said that there was no law requiring her adhere to the bylaws. That's true. Only her honor and duty to the members who elected her require her to do that. She clearly has no honor.

6:46 AM, February 12, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's face it, MP is only interested in the money, not the members.
As membership dwindles, there will be less meetings and eventually, she's going to take off with the money.
In the corporate world, it's called embezzling.

8:26 AM, February 13, 2007  
Anonymous knitnerd said...

I have been a member of the knitting guild for over 20 years. I have given books to the library,knitted for its charity events, donated yarn for the yarn sale, and taught skills. I have a lot of effort invested in the guild and hate to give up and let the dictators take control.
Last year I received only one issue of City Purls and only two meeting notices. I am clearly not getting what I paid for. I hesitate to give them dues this year and get even less. Offers to help find a new meeting location or a new site for the luncheon fall into the "this is not the time to discuss it" black hole.

11:55 AM, March 08, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helen Griffin (of troy) of Golden-Apples fame please add this site to your other sites.

Have the courage to admit to all your sites not just the ones that flatter your image.

10:50 AM, April 10, 2013  

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